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What Lingers in a Space

Lyssia Katan Season 1 Episode 17

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In this episode, Lyssia sits down with Tami Sharp, co-founder of Law Enforcement Coaching and a specialist in mental, emotional, and energetic well-being, to explore the invisible forces inside our spaces and how they shape the way we think, feel, and move through life. Working at the intersection of high-stress environments and personal healing, Tami shares how her experience with law enforcement professionals led her to a deeper understanding of energy, intuition, and the unseen impact of our surroundings.

The conversation breaks down what “energy in a space” really means beyond the abstract, and why your environment may be affecting you more than you realize. They explore how clutter reflects your internal state, how emotional and psychological “residue” can build up over time, and why boundaries matter not just with people, but within your space. Tami shares practical ways to reset your environment, from small physical shifts to mindset changes, and explains how your home can either support your well-being or quietly drain it. By the end of this episode, you may start to see your space differently, not just as something you design, but as something that holds, reflects, and influences your energy every day.

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Why Home Should Feel Safe

Tami Sharp

Your home should be your sanctuary. That's your safe space. When you're at home, you should have a physical reaction that when you get home, you can just go you're safe. The only thing that you have true control over is your mind and your immediate surroundings.

Lyssia Katan

In our homes, we have locks, right? We can't just let strangers walk into our home. But when we open the phone or the TV or whatever it be, social media, strangers are walking into our energy all the time.

Tami Sharp

If you have a lot of clutter, that's a reflection of your energy level, your mind, your mental and emotional space. So if you're stressed out, having anxiety, depressed, go clean a dwarf.

Meet Tami Sharp And Her Work

Lyssia Katan

Tami, you're freaking me out of here. Have you ever walked into a room and felt a weird energy you really couldn't explain? Welcome to Room to Think. In this episode, I'm sitting down with Tami Sharp. She works with law enforcement professionals, helping officers manage the mental and emotional stress of the job. But Tami also hosts a wellness podcast. She has a doctor in metaphysical science, and she does energy work, which is a very different world from law enforcement. This conversation went in directions I really did not expect at all. What started as a discussion about high stress professions and the environments people work in quickly turned into a much deeper conversation about the invisible side of spaces. Things like the energy a space carries and how it builds up over time, and why protecting your home's energy might matter more than we realize. We even got into things like how clutter can affect your energy, why people use symbols like the evil eye to protect their homes, and the idea that spaces sometimes need to be cleared of the energy left behind by the people who were there before. Fascinating. By the end of this episode, you'll start thinking very differently about the energy in your home and what you might want to do to clear it. Let's get into it. Tami, welcome to the show. Thank you for helping me. Tami Sharp works with law enforcement professionals across the country, helping officers navigate the psychological stress, trauma, and pressure that come from the job. She grew up in a law enforcement family. So she's seen that world from the inside for most of her life. And she hosts the blah blah blah something wellness podcast, where she talks about mental health and resilience in policing. What's interesting about Tami, though, is that alongside this work, she has always had a deep love for interior design and DIY projects. So today we're talking about something that sits right at the intersection of these two worlds, how the environments we spend time in, from police station to our own homes, quietly shape our stress levels, our mindset, and how we show up in the world. Tami, welcome to Room to Think.

Tami Sharp

Thank you. I'm so excited to be here. I get to talk about interior design, which is like my passion. I didn't end up becoming an interior decorator, went on a different life journey. But uh as you said, like I do all sorts of DIY projects constantly. So love it.

Lyssia Katan

Amazing. So before we get into the DIY, just so listeners kind of get an idea of who you are, can you explain what you do today and how you ended up in law enforcement and maybe give us a little glimpse into the blah, blah, blah, something wellness podcast?

Tami Sharp

Yeah. So I don't even know. I ask myself all the time, how did I get here? Um, I am the co-founder and CEO of Law Enforcement Coaching, alongside my partner in all things, Chris Zamora. Um it's so many twists and turns to get to where we are, but it started back when I was a baby. So my dad was an outpost deputy sheriff. So I grew up in a law enforcement household that had a very unique upbringing. We were very remote. So he was on 24-7. I grew up in a patrol car. Uh, I learned to run radar when I was four, and I was just, I grew when I say I grew up in a patrol car, like we had a 45-minute bus ride to school. So we were very, very remote. And so I bring the spouse and family component to my team. Uh, I'm the only full civilian on our team. We have a team of about 20 law enforcement professionals that we've trained to be coaches, and we do training. It's kind of a hybrid version, version of life coaching, is what we do. It's mental emotional wellness, recalibration, proactive, preventative maintenance, whatnot. Um, do stuff across the country. And that's cut, and Chris is a retired detective, so from an Arizona agency. So I bring that component um to it. And then me, outside of law enforcement, went on a completely different journey through a whole bunch of ups and downs that actually led me to doing what we're doing.

Growing Up In Law Enforcement

Lyssia Katan

And we're gonna dive into all of them. I'm so excited. Let's start at the beginning. You grew up in a law enforcement household. What was that environment like as a kid?

Tami Sharp

Uh, it was very unique so and stressful. Um, because of where we were, it was a two-hour drive for my dad to get to the sheriff's office or the jail, the courthouse. So um a lot of travel time. So law enforcement families know that if you have a first or law enforcement officer in your world, if they arrest somebody, they're not gonna be home. If they're on an accident or a scene, whatever, it's like the schedule is all over the place. They're not gonna be home when they said that they're gonna be home. Uh, but for us, if my dad arrested somebody, like he was not going to be home for a while because it's two-hour drive just to get there, the booking process, however long that's gonna be, another two-hour drive. So it was very different. So we had a sheriff sign in our front yard so people could find us at all hours of the day and night. Um, and just the mindset that I was taught growing up of how to be aware of my surroundings and to, you know, be very cautious of people. But yeah, I mean, it it was stressful in some regards when things were happening, but it was also very cool. I know today's climate, law enforcement is a controversial topic and a lot of people are upset. I would say lean in and talk to. If you the people that are upset either don't have any kind of relationship with cops, besides a bad one, maybe you got a ticket or whatever. So lean in. Our first responders are really important. We need them no matter what. So they're humans, they have a very stressful career, and we need to be doing more to support them. So that's kind of where I come in. Because when somebody says F the police, I'm like, well, that's great, but you're insulting me personally because I'm a cop's daughter and my dad was actually a really good person.

Grief And The Power Of Mindset

Lyssia Katan

So yeah, that's a little nutshell. Well, thank you for giving us that little uh background story. And you mentioned that you grew up having to be very aware of your surroundings. At what point did that kind of connect with not only your surroundings from a safety perspective, but also from a well-being perspective?

Tami Sharp

There were a couple of different situations that happened. So, one just having that. So my dad raised me to think like a cop, uh, to trust my gut. I've always been very intuitive and empathic and didn't quite know what that meant, which led me into all of the other work that I do. But my story of like the mindset and how to be, my dad was diagnosed with stage four prostate cancer when I was 11 years old. And he was given six months to live, best case scenario. And his mindset, because he was also uh he did 20 years US Air Force, 20 plus years law enforcement, old school, very stubborn. And he was like, Nope, that's not my story. Um, my job as a dad is to see my daughter turn 18. That way I've done my job as a parent. Anytime after that is extra time. And so he fought. Uh, he ended up going into complete remission for seven years with a zero PSA count. And when I was 17, I graduated from high school. He was the president of my school board. Um, so he actually got to hand me my diploma. And then I turned 18 that August, moved out, was I went to acting school up in Canada because my plan was to go to the six-month acting school and then go to San Diego to the Fashion Institute of Design and Merchandising to study interior design. But that got side railed because after being 18 and out of the house, my dad's cancer came back, came back very aggressive. And we ended up, uh, I made the decision to take him off life support. And I've been at peace with that ever since because I got an additional seven years. But in all of that, I learned the power of the mind and that we can create our own reality. I didn't get to go to interior design school because I was in grieving and when a whole life put me on a whole nother healing path, which is awesome because it's where I came around to for this. But yeah, it was a big story. Um, but it set me up for ultimate success. And my dad is very much with me in spirit, and I absolutely trust my gut and energy and all of that stuff. So yeah.

DIY Design And Space Psychology

Lyssia Katan

I want to dive into that. Um, first of all, what a story. Wow. And and and when we originally spoke, you had mentioned it to me. And it's just, I think it's remarkable how life really does take you in different paths, and sometimes they're quite unexpected. It's interesting how the things we love really do end up coming back, even if we are side railed sometimes. So, where did uh your interest in design come from? And how did you start remembering? Like, I really love this and start pursuing DIY projects and home renovation projects.

Tami Sharp

That's a great question of when it started. I mean, I was the type of kid that anytime I was told I needed to clean my room, I would be like, okay, well, we have to move everything. I have to remove my bed and completely re-feng shui it, right? Um, and it's funny because my daughter is just about 12 and she is driving me nuts because she's just like that. And I every tonight she goes through so many designs. I'm like, okay, you change your mind like every other week. So just commit to something. But no, I would always do that. Um, since I didn't get to go to school for design, um, I went on a different path, but I did end up working at Pier One Imports, and so I would help other people design. And then I bought my first house at 21 and it was a complete fixer-uffer, and we had to flip it. And so I, and that's when I worked at Pier One too. So I got discounts and Pier One, like their damaged goods, you could the employees, we could get that stuff for like a dollar, or if people brought back their burnt candles that they didn't like the scent, it was like cool, mine. Um so we completely renovated this house. Like when you walked into it, originally it was like a mud room. We turned that into a bar, like we painted it all black, we knocked out a wall, it was a whole awesome, awesome thing. Uh, I didn't have a single white wall in that house. Every room was a different design, different color. And I mean, we created a stone fireplace and flooring. We moved the hot water tank from a closet up into the attic and made a hallway. Um I went to town on that house. I had so much fun. And so, I mean, I got to do that. And then every place that I've lived, even if it was a rental, I just I'm a Leo, so I have to make my space my space, right? Um, so yeah, I've just it's been something with the interior design or the decorating at the time. I also realized you have to be kind of good at math, and I'm not. And so I was like, oh, there's so much math involved. So I was like, well, I'll just make things pretty.

Lyssia Katan

And so what was your first project and what did you learn from that?

Tami Sharp

First project was the house, and I'm I learned so much. One, I also learned it's okay to hire people and delegate. Uh, my we painted it was a two-bedroom, one-story, two-bedroom house that we painted everything, the bathrooms, everything. And my hand was literally like cramped because I was painting so much with the roller. Um, and what did I learn? I learned to enjoy the process and not to get just because you create something, it's not forever. It's kind of like the Buddhist mandalas, or you know, you make all these things and you're gonna repaint it later, a couple years later, or whatever. The coolest part was we designed, we got this couch that was like this old 70s couch. It was super ugly. And my boyfriend at the time's mom was an industrial seamstress. And so we stripped that couch down and we did it black with burgundy cushions with a cream pinstripe. It was like the cool, it looked like super high-end luxury. It was awesome.

Lyssia Katan

When did you realize it? Like your space can really change the way you feel in it.

Clutter And Reflective Energy Explained

Tami Sharp

Oh man. Um I didn't realize it back then. I just liked making pretty spaces. When I was 19, so it was the summer after my dad had passed away. I got introduced to Wayne Dyer and was, I spent my grieving period reading uh Manifest Your Destiny. And so from there, oh man, I got into that, the secret, all of the basic like law of attraction type books. And so I started studying those. So I think I started kind of understanding briefly, I guess, a little bit of what that was like. Um, but then it was when I was on Maui and I was in my healing journey that I really understood energy and how things impact, and that clutter is a direct correlation to the clutter in your mind and the stress and the anxiety and everything else you have going on. And I helped, I think I told you this story. I was part, I was helping with modeling and acting school at one point, and there was a salesperson there, and she was set up in this big conference room area with her desk, and she'd been there all day. But behind her were windows that went out to, I mean, it was Maui, so it's a very beautiful background. And she had been selling and just kicking butt all day, and then the sun went down, and all of a sudden she couldn't close anything, and she was getting really frustrated. And she was just like, I don't understand what happened, like why all of a sudden these people are not resonating with me. And so I went in and I looked at her space and I was like, Well, let's look at this. So, one underneath her desk, because she'd been there all day, there's garbage and there's food, and there's just stuff, like and papers and files. Just it was a disaster underneath the desk. And she also, the desk was positioned so that the windows that were showing a beautiful background were now it was dark, so it was reflective. So the people looking at her were seeing their own reflection. So I'm like, you have a messy, cluttered energy under your desk and stagnant, stuck energy. You have a reflective energy that's showing them, so they're not listening to you. I'm like, let's just play with something, let's clean up out from under the desk and reposition it. And so we did, and then she started selling every again, and she was like, holy crap! So um, she ended up taking me to dinner and thanking me. She's like, that was amazing. I was like, that was super simple. But that was one of those moments where it's like, okay, there's something to energy and where you're at. So for sure.

Lyssia Katan

Clutter is something we've heard a lot. It's uh we had a Feng Choi master on the show, we've had neuroscientists, and like clutter is one of the biggest things, but you mentioned reflective energy. Can can you tell me a little bit more about that? How did the reflective energy impact her space and how does it impact ours?

Tami Sharp

Oh, there's so much. And I would even okay, I'm gonna play with this because not only do we have the reflective energy, like right now, I'm talking you, but I'm also seeing myself. So we are as a species, we're a little self-absorbed as I fix my hair. Okay, right? We are constantly looking at ourselves, and we as much as we're trying to stay focused, it's like, okay, but oh, that's what I look like. And I feel kind of from like a soul level, one of the reasons that we're so obsessed with how we look in the mirror and how we appear in video and all of this stuff, and how it's weird to hear yourself played back or see yourself because our soul, that energy body, is like, what is this costume I'm wearing? Like, we're wearing this thing, but it's so like, oh, it's fascinating. So, oh, let me back it up before I go. So we didn't talk about I go full spectrum woo woo with people. So I we love it. We love it. I also, in addition to working with law enforcement, I am a clinical hypnotherapist, a Reiki master, I have a doctorate in metaphysical science, so hippie woo-woo stuff. Um, I love all things energy and why the mind works a certain way, why the body works a certain way, the energy, all of that. So when I start going down this rabbit hole, people will be like, wait, what are you talking about? So the reflective energy, we read energy, everybody reads energy. I don't care what religion you fall under, what mind space, whether you believe in nothing, we all are very in tune, whether we know it or not, with energy, because everything is energy. So when we're listening to somebody that's trying to sell us something specifically, we're already reading them. And the mind is judging am I safe? Am I being, you know, lied to? Is this honest? Does this feel right? There's so many different facets at play when somebody's like legit selling you, or if they're a really good, if they're if they believe in what they're selling and they're not just selling it to make a buck, but they're selling it because they actually believe in what they're doing, you'll be able to feel that. But when you're being told something and you can see yourself and how you're reacting to it, it's gonna create a disconnect from the person that's in front of you because you're now focused on how you and if your face is like, This is can I cuss on this? Because is it okay? Go for it.

Lyssia Katan

I don't know. We'll get the little e on Spotify.

Tami Sharp

Because if the person's like, this is bullshit and they see their face, then they're gonna tune into their own energy and they're gonna disconnect from whatever's not genuine in front of them. But if it is genuine, if that makes sense. Are you tracking what I'm saying with that a little bit? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's the same when you're doing um video stuff because you're watching your nuances, you're watching the other person, and so you're just like, okay, wait, where is my energy with all of this?

Lyssia Katan

But they say in feng shui, like mirrors are so important. Is that also part of the reason? Because the reflecting energy is so critical.

Mirrors Feng Shui And Portals

Tami Sharp

So there, yes, there's a few things with with mirrors specifically. Um, when it comes to energy, so and it depends on your belief. So take it with a grain of salt for whatever. So mirrors, if you in feng shui, it is known that if you put a mirror, like when you open your door and you have a mirror right there, it will actually reflect and protect. So it any negative energy that's coming in, it'll push it back out and send it to where it's going. So it's a protective layer. Others believe that mirrors are portals and that can open things up, especially if you have like, you know, the folding mirrors where it goes and you can just see forever. Uh, people believe that that is a portal, for better or for worse. Uh, we can talk about beliefs in evil entities or whatnot. Some mirrors can serve as portals. Um, there's also, oh, what is it called when you uh scribing? I can't remember what it's called. When you look into a mirror for a long, long time and you kind of just let your gaze go. Uh, some of your karmic ancestral things or other spirit guides and whatnot can kind of come through. There's a whole ceremony to that. Um, it's not my strong suit. I've done it a couple times. It's like, okay, that's weird. I remember as a kid playing Bloody Mary in the mirror, so I try not to stare into the mirror too much. Like what's coming through? Um, yeah, but it really depends on your belief. But in the feng shui component, the front of the house, it's protective. But then I've also learned that having a mirror uh in the bedroom can be great for your personal relationship, fun part, but it can also, depending on where you have the mirror in relation to your bed, can also not be great for the relationship. Why is that? I think, and I can't remember. So I don't want to quote, I'm not a feng shui expert, I just dabble in it. But having um having the mirror at I think it's at the foot of the bed, that reflective energy, again, it can create energy that's not supposed to be in that bedroom.

Protective Symbols Like The Evil Eye

Lyssia Katan

I want to talk about the elements that we put in our spaces for energy. Like I'm I'm Middle Eastern, Mediterranean, we have evil eyes everywhere. And like that's such an important thing. When you come in to the house, there's an evil eye. And what are those like, how does energy play in with those elements that we put into our space or ourselves protectively? Oh, okay.

Tami Sharp

I have evil eye by my front door as well. Um you're out and about dealing with people, and this goes into law enforcement as well, is something that I'm trying to teach them. It's like you're dealing with people on their worst days, you're dealing with death, you're dealing with heightened emotion, addiction, all sorts of stuff. That stuff can stick to us. So even whether you're in law enforcement or not, you're dealing with the public. I used to be a bank teller. Oh my gosh, people with money. That's an emotional energetic charge. So you can pick up shrapnel, I call it like spider webs. You can walk through somebody's energetic spider web and get that crap all over you and you don't even realize that that's happening. And then you can bring it home with you. And if you want me to go full into the woo-woo, like attracts like. So if you want to talk spirits and ghosts and attachments and all of that stuff. So I used to own a bar on Maui, and this is where I learned all of this stuff because we would have stuff follow us home. And in a bar specifically, or if you're drinking or you're doing any kind of drugs. We have an auric field, and drugs and alcohol create holes or black spots in our auric field. So things that are not of what we can see in the human realm, it's like a moth to a flame and it will attract that energy. So if you're in a low vibration or you're in a dark space, it's going to attract that energy. Um, addiction is big because when someone passes, if they have not come to peace and they don't go to the light, whatever your religious beliefs are, just go with me on this. Um, if they're still in kind of ghost form, non-trans, they haven't transitioned over through the light, they're still chasing whatever that addiction is. So they will attach to a human that's going to go in and feed that addiction so they can get their fix. I would have that all the time at the bar. Um, we'd have transient energy come through. My bar was on Maui uh downstream from Eao. There was a lot. Maui in itself is very spiritual. Um, that location was very spiritual, and then you have people bringing in different energies and entities. So there were many times where we would have different things flow through the bar that it's like you're sitting there and all of a sudden you feel like the hair on the back of your neck just stand up, and it's like you're not, we're not supposed to be there. We had a a rule in the bar where yes, you're supposed to clean it up and get it ready for the next day. But if certain energies were there, it's like, okay, get the money, close it up, go. And Cammy, you're freaking me out here.

Lyssia Katan

I guess it is some kind of psychology, right? In a space. So it's not totally off topic, but like, I don't even know where to start with that. How do people tap into that in their spaces? And and just to be clear, like, we have all kinds of listeners on this podcast. We have people who are super woo-woo and people who are very not woo-woo. So, like, kind of like making it relevant to both sides and people who are in the middle. But how do you even pick up on that in your space? And how do you cleanse it? Is that the right word?

How To Sense And Clear Energy

Tami Sharp

So that so I share that because that's where I learned to, I had to take stuff seriously because I was I'm skeptical with everything I do. The reason I have a doctorate is because I was like, bullshit. Like, let's go do a deeper dive in this. So um I'm one of the biggest skeptics, but I learned so much in that experience that I'm like, wait, there is something going on that I need to understand more. So, with the energetics of it in your own space. So you just understanding that you can bring stuff home. And if you have stuff, some people in their space, it's surprising to me that how many people are like, oh yeah, I got a ghost and they're okay with it. And it's like, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're just okay with it. Like, oh yeah, you know, that's what I mean. In their house, in their house all the time. I hear that all the time. Because I think that I'm going left field on people and they're like, Oh, yeah, no, that makes sense. I have that. Um, and it's just like, okay, some people get attached to that energy. So, whatever the energy is, if you don't want it or if it is not benefiting your life, if it's causing upheaval, if you find yourself in emotional turmoil and you're having all of these things just constantly going wrong. Um, maybe you have a part in your house where it's like you can feel the energy and you always get in a fight in this room or something. It's where you want to clear that energy. So there's a lot of different things. First and foremost, the clutter. If you have a lot of clutter, that is that's the psychology part, right? That's a reflection of your energy level, your mind, your mental and emotional space. So a lot of the teachers in the world will tell you if you're stressed out, having anxiety, depressed, go clean a drawer. Pick one spot. Don't try to do the whole house because you're gonna start ripping apart your closet and halfway through being like, I'm done. And then it's gonna be a mess for the next three months, right? We get over it. Little tiny bite-sized pieces, cleaning out your junk drawer, organizing your bathroom mirror, something is going to help free up that space, right? Like right now, I completely redid my whole office a few months ago because it was I my office was kind of the catch-all for everything, but this is also where I run my business. So the whole house, because I work from home, so my whole house ends up in my office, and I was like, I feel like a hoarder. Like I have a path to get to my desk and I'm stuck. I feel stuck creatively, I feel stuck emotionally, I'm burned out, I'm not getting business, I'm not doing anything. I'm like, this can't keep going. So I took a day where I should have been working on business and I was like, nope, forget it. I'm gonna completely transform my office. And when I did that, I had emails start coming through. I had clients reach out to me from nowhere where I had somebody refer me a client that I hadn't talked to them in seven years. And they're like, hey, I have a client for you. And I'm like, I'm gonna keep cleaning because there's something going on here. Um when you have those spaces in your house that do feel darker, you want to move that stuff because you can get stagnant energy. And if you have darker, not great energy that is trying to cause harm or whatnot, it will hide. It's shadows, right? So they like to hang out in the shadows. So you need to clear that space. And I can keep going. I can talk about smudging and salting, all what do you what do you want? I got you.

Lyssia Katan

I mean, I want really practical advice. Like people, what about like, okay, so both sides, practical advice. What did you, what are some things that you would do in a bar or you do in your space that when you just feel like it's off and you want to just kind of like open it up to more opportunities, more great better relationships, better communication, whatever it may be.

Tami Sharp

The first thing is yourself. You gotta clear your own internal mess and the out the external, the physical realm is a reflection. So as you work in harmony, like I just said, like if you start cleaning a space, it'll help. But you really need to protect your own energy. Clear your own energy. It starts with self-awareness. If things, some people are like, well, I'm just bad luck, or nothing ever works out for me, or I'm always this, or I'm not good enough. First of all, the secret in life, it's very simple. Every single human being, I don't care how successful you are, every person struggles with the subconscious belief of I'm not good enough and I'm not lovable. It's very when you get to those two points and you start figuring that out and changing that narrative, a whole bunch of stuff in your life will start taking shape. So, in your space, I mean, I I have rocks and crystals and essential oils and all of those things, but like you were talking about the evil eye. The practical things is protecting your energy, protecting your space. Your home should be your sanctuary. It is where that's your safe space. When you go out into the world, we're living in crazy times. When you're at home, your body, you should have a physical reaction that when you get home, you can just go you're safe. It feels good. If your home does not feel good, you need that's when you get with the experts, or you have somebody come in and coach you or accountability, you make a plan to clean up the space. And what do you want it to look like? How do you get it organized? And that's that's the first thing is having that awareness. Also, in that regard, with the practical part of protecting your home and your safe space and your internal space. Our phones and social media, you need to protect yourself from that too, because we're being inundated with negative patterns and algorithms and all of that stuff. No matter what algorithm you subscribe to, you're still gonna get just peppered with negativity. So you really need to protect your mind. That's the first thing. Um, energetically, in your room, especially your bedroom, a lot of people have TVs, phones, all sorts of electronics in their room. And any feng shui expert will tell you, no, get it out.

Boundaries With Family And Tech

Lyssia Katan

That's such a good point. And and I'm glad you bring that up because in our homes, we have locks, right? We can't just let strangers walk into our home. But when we open the phone and we or the TV or whatever it be, social media, strangers are walking into our energy all the time. So, like, it's it's like locking your door. Sometimes you just gotta lock that element out and recognize how much it's impacting you.

Tami Sharp

Boundaries are huge, whether it is in the design, in our personal space, whether it's in your home. It's like, okay, yeah, I would love for my home to be a safe space, but I have a family and I have a partner that needs me and I have all of these things and I want to take care of moms specifically. We will give and give and give and give. And any of the female guru teachers are will repeat themselves you can't give from an empty cup. You have to take care of yourself. You have to do that. And the question becomes like, how do I do that when I have multiple kids and animals? Like, I have I have a zoo, I have two kids, I have two two dogs, two cats, a tortoise, a now we have a leopard gecko. We used to have a free roaming bunny. I like it's just chaos all the time. So, how do you hold the energetic boundary and energetic boundary and physical boundary? And those are two different things. Energetic boundary. Well, let's talk about the physical first, because the physical is a little bit more easy to implement because you can see, like, okay, you're in my space right now. Like, I need a moment, you need to vocalize. And understanding that if you are a person that's been a doormat and you have not upheld your boundaries, when you start putting boundaries in place, you're gonna get negative feedback. And anybody that's mad at you for having that boundary, they're gonna lash out. And that's a clear indicator that you're on the right path because that's somebody that was taking advantage of you. And they don't like that all of a sudden they can't do that anymore. So you have to stay strong with that. Once you start practicing that, then you can start building up the energetic boundaries because when you get confident in yourself and you're really good with boundaries, I'm really good with boundaries. That stuff does not even enter into my field. You it just people can read it, like, no, don't mess with her. She's not open to it. That makes sense. Absolutely.

Rituals Across Cultures And Belief

Lyssia Katan

There's a lot here that come on unpack. So, first of all, the whole energy concept is not new. Energy in our space, energy in our body, energy everywhere. It's not new, it's been around forever. Do you believe that like some cultures they use the evil eye and some cultures they use the gemstones, and some cultures they use um they burn sage or they have like a Buddha at the front door? Do you think it's all the same thing, just a different, like different fonts, really, for the same concept? Yeah.

Tami Sharp

So I was very fortunate. I got to go to China when I was 12 years old. Um there were 20 of us kids that were student ambassadors that got to go from Beijing all the way down the coast and ended in Hong Kong before we came back. We were there for about three weeks. And that's a very impressionable age. And I wish I would have been a little bit older because honestly, at 12 years old, I cared more about the boys that were like, oh, he's cute than hey, I'm standing on the great wall right now. Like, that's what it is. But I think that's a huge part of where I learned things as well, because we got to go to do home stays in villages. And when you walk into the temples, the homes, whatever, there's kind of like a curb that you have to step up. And they didn't have um doors, they had like beaded curtains, and then you step in and over this curb. And it's like, well, why is the curb there? To knock off the negative energy so stuff doesn't follow you in. Um, they also uh they would put zigzag paths across their water. Why? So that negative energy, one, most energies and spirits can't cross water, and then to do the bridge, anything that's following you, it knocks off the negative energy. So these other cultures are very, very rooted in spirituality and things that we can't see in other realms and whatnot. When it comes to Christianity and traditional westernized religions, this is I wrote my doctorate on this, which was uh bridging science, spirit, and skepticism, debunking the bullshit. Because as a hypnotherapist, a lot of people are like, oh, that's the devil's work. I'm like, actually, it's not. That's not in the Bible anywhere. It was Sigmund Freud that couldn't do it, and so he didn't like it, so he poo-pooed it. Okay. So hypnosis, we all go in and out of a natural state of hypnosis all the time. When you're driving and you're like, you don't remember how you just drove the last five miles, but you got there, you're in a state of hypnosis. You missed your driveway or you missed your churn, you were in a natural state of hypnosis. It's not mind control, it's just what we do in and out of, right? We also believe in religion, we believe in heaven and hell and angels and all of these mystical things. So then why would we stop at wait? There could possibly be an energy or an entity or something otherworldly that I can't see that's impacting my life. So protecting yourself from all of that, I think keeping an open mind and diving in and learning about other cultures because yeah, it is a different variation of some of the same things. Everything's energy.

Reading A Room And Self Protection

Lyssia Katan

Knowing everything that you know, when you walk into a room, what's the first thing you look at now? What's the first thing you notice? It doesn't have to be something that you see, but like, how do you read a space?

Tami Sharp

I've learned to trust my gut. If something feels off, I have been through enough in my life, enough trials and tribulations and been lied to that I've learned that if something feels off, it is. I might not know exactly what it is. I'm usually pretty good at being in the ballpark. And if I'm not, I can just I'll tell whoever I'm with, being like, hey, I'm not comfortable. Something I don't know what it is, but something's not right. And um I try to tap into that a little bit. Sometimes I'll remove myself from the situation. But what I do, and this is the simplest way to protect your energy. So if we get into the chakras, are you familiar with chakras? A little bit, a little bit. So we have red is our root chakra that keeps us grounded and kind of planted in earth. We have uh orange, which is our sacral chakra, which is our creative center. Um, and then we have our solar plexus, which is yellow. We have all the other ones, but I'm gonna talk about solar plexus. That's our seat of power. That's also our gut, that's our seat of intuition and seed of knowing. And so we do this naturally, is when we when somebody's sitting there like with their arms crossed, from a body language point, there can be a couple things. And I work with cops, and so we talk about this all the time because cops are notorious for close having their arms crossed, closed body language, I'm not interested in this. Some of them it's comfort, sometimes it is comfort, and then other times it's closed off body language. But what people don't realize is normally when you have your arms crossed down, you're intuitively protecting your power center, your solar plexus. So if there's somebody that I'm dealing with that I don't like their energy and I don't want to be associated or attacked, I don't want to be picked up. I will just I'll put my hand right over my solar plexus, or I'll put my arms there, I'll put a purse there, I will put something to block myself. For the ladies, guys, too, if you really want to, but you can wear a long necklace with a protective crystal, um, tourmaline, obsidian, uh petrified wood. You can do something that hangs down and hangs over your solar plexus to protect it. You can also do something that hangs over your heart if you're very sensitive in your relationships and love and self-love. You can protect it. Um, but that's something that's very simple. Nobody knows that you're doing it, and you can just very easily protect that. I also, when I leave a space that I'm like, oh, that was bad energy. Quickest and easiest thing that you can do is start wiping, literally pretend like you have spider webs all over you. And you start, it's dry brushing. You just start wiping that energy off and flick it out, get it away from you. Um, if I'm doing energy work and I'm moving somebody's energy, I do two things. I either imagine that I'm throwing the energy up to the sun to burn up and become vapor, or I imagine that it's going into the ground to become fertilizer to grow roses. I have the biggest rose bush right outside my office when I do my work. Okay.

Lyssia Katan

That's funny. That's funny. So that's kind of like you you've become very uh aware of that. Because a lot of people aren't. A lot of people don't really recognize, just like they don't realize the the power of clutter, they don't realize the power of people's bad energy, which could be like emotional clutter.

Emotional Hijacking And Social Media

Tami Sharp

Oh man. Okay, so there's also a thing is energy vampires, and that this depends on the culture. I don't know what you guys have uh in your culture, but Australia, it's called Soma Bandits. In Hawaii, we called it Mana Munchers, but it's an energy vampire. So if you have somebody that comes into your life and you just feel drained when you're done with them, like you're at or you know, like, hey, so-and-so wants to hang out with me, and you tell your significant other or your friend, like, uh, I don't have the energy for them today. That is somebody that you need to be mindful of yourself. You're not gonna change them and don't go, please, please do not go and be like, you're an energy vampire. I can't, you know, like because they're not gonna know that they're doing it consciously. Some might, but that is a self-accountability to protect your own energy and again put those boundaries up. If you have somebody that is draining your energy, you need to check in with why are you friends with that person? What is the benefit for you? And for me, it's hard. Like, I have friends that I love them to death. I'm friends with them and I don't want to insult. And if they knew that they fell into this category, they would be so hurt. But for me, I have what I call my B list friends. I have my A-listers that I want to hang out with. I would go on girls' trips, I would do stuff with them. They bring me joy and they add energy and value to my life, and I feel good hanging out with them. And then I have my B-list friends, which I like them. They're good people, but for me, I can only handle small doses. I can't, I would not do a road trip or a girls' trip with some of these because I'm like, oh my God. Like I get done with a coffee lunch or whatever, and I'm like, that was a lot. So again, that energetic boundary of and I don't mean it negative. I don't mean it negative. They don't mean to do it. It's just again coming to your own self-awareness and your boundaries of where do you want to spend your energy and your time? Right.

Lyssia Katan

It's like the emotional boundaries are very much like physical ones, but often we don't treat them that way. 100%. But like I said earlier, you wouldn't just let anyone walk into your house un unnoticed.

Tami Sharp

Yeah, I think that's a great analogy for people to think of. Like, would you let these things just come into your house and start moving shit around? And and like, I don't like your couch here, so I'm gonna move it and be like, excuse you.

Lyssia Katan

Yeah, we see that in the physical, but we don't realize that in the mental and emotional, how people can come in and just move things around without permission.

First Responder Stress And Coping

Tami Sharp

Well, it's getting emotionally hijacked. And again, so say you're driving on the freeway or the highway and somebody cuts you off, and I'm bad at this, because I have I get all like part of the the road rage or that reaction of you know, it's fight or flight and it's a defense mechanism where your your life was just in danger, so now you're gonna be like, ah, but how long are you gonna let that? Are you gonna let that stew for the rest of the day or a couple of weeks because somebody cut you off and it made you mad? If that's the case, then you've been emotionally and mentally hijacked. Same with social media. You see a post and you're all up in arms and you're emotional. There are so many people that don't even realize how emotionally hijacked they've been by social media. And they don't go any farther than their the emotive reaction. They don't look at facts, they don't look further into the story, they don't check anything, they don't do their due diligence, they just form an opinion because they had an emotional reaction and now they're letting this live rent-free in their mind.

Lyssia Katan

So, in dealing with those circumstances, and and I'm sure you deal with it all the time because you work with cops and they work with in very stressful scenarios. Their work, the nature of their job is incredibly stressful. How does someone um unwind from that? Like how how do cops unwind from such a stressful day? What what what does that look like?

Tami Sharp

That's what we're trying to teach. Uh the reality is they don't, or they haven't been. It's getting better in the last few years, but people like my dad and the old school generation, you didn't talk about it. You didn't, you suck it up, buttercup, do your job, you signed up for this, whatnot. And there weren't resources. They for cops specifically and a lot of first responders, the way that it used to be was if you came to your boss and said, Hey, I'm having a hard time, I'm struggling, I need to see a therapist. It's kind of like, okay, well, you're something's wrong with you. And now you could literally do career suicide where you could get in trouble, you could get demoted, and ultimately you could get fired because you can't handle the job. It was, it used to be a very militant, black and white, toxic masculinity, I guess. That was the old school way. And now it's gotten better in recent years. There's still a long way to go, but it's not sustainable. The everybody in the law enforcement space and first responder space know the statistics for suicide for first responders is unacceptable. Uh, cancer, alcoholism, all of these different ish issues. Because if you're not talking about it, you're not coping, you're not processing, you it has its energy, it has to go somewhere. And so we get the Not great coping mechanisms, or we just bottle it up, and that's where the cancer comes in and depression, all these different things. So, where what we do literally with law enforcement coaching is to kind of take a proactive preventative maintenance approach so that we do get officers and first responders talking. We are not peer support. So peer support is usually within a department really great for after-critical incidents or work-related stressors and whatnot. But the reality is if there's an officer that's dealing with stuff at home, they're going through a divorce, they're not feeling quite right, they're not going to talk to somebody in-house. And it might not be something for them to talk to a traditional therapist or psychologist. The issue with traditional therapy as well is one, there's a stigma, but two, finding a culturally competent person that can handle the weight and the reality of what first responders go to. I don't want to traumatize your audience, but they deal with a lot of death. They deal with a lot of uh worst-case scenarios, especially when it comes to children and animals. That stuff never leaves you. Um, so having we've had many officers that have come to us saying they were fired by the therapist because they traumatized their therapist. So we created our team to help be part of the solution in getting them to process their emotions. So that's a long-winded answer for your question, but that's what we are doing.

Lyssia Katan

That's incredible. And thank you for doing that. It's something that's very much necessary. And I think it's pushing the entire industry um into a very much more positive space and awareness that these things are heavy and they do need to be dealt with. Do you think that people underestimate how much the environment contributes to these things or makes it worse?

Tami Sharp

It's been very interesting, the conversations that I had. Some are very closed off. And my thing is some you're either gonna love me or you hate me. I don't really care either way, it's not about me. Um, but the people that come to me, I've had departments talk about the energy in their place. You're you're dealing with the worst of the worst in humanity, and especially in jail. So you have the corrections officers that go into jail every day dealing with really bad people, really bad energy, and it's all closed up. So having that awareness of again the energetic boundaries and protecting yourself, and then how do you clear space? Like you can't bring sage into a jail or into a PD and actually sage and smudge it, but there are, believe me, I've some do. There are things that you can do to clear some of that energy out. Um, I know that there's some departments that do have people hire professionals come do energy clearings. Uh, if they're on tribal land, they might have somebody come and do a blessing or clearing. You can have your PD or your location wherever you are, you can have it cleared and blessed from time to time. Um, if you don't want to go to a full ceremony, if you're in a position where you can open the doors and the windows to kind of just move energy out, don't do it at night. Always do it during the day. Um, and then whatever your religious belief, you can do a little prayer or a mantra and just say, hey, you know, it's kind of like bar rules. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here.

Police Spaces And Wellness Rooms

Lyssia Katan

Be gone. And how do the actual spaces like uh police, uh police stations or patrol cars or briefing rooms or even interrogation rooms, how do they affect the mindset of the people in them? Like even talking about like the the way they're set up, the way they're like, is there you having such an intimate like vision of behind the scenes? Are these places set up in a very certain, very specific way?

Tami Sharp

It really depends. Um, some of the newer PDs or the remodeled PDs are absolutely phenomenal. Um, they have gorgeous places. They there's some that are coming in where they're putting in wellness rooms and you can go in and it's tranquil colors, and they might have essential oils and aromatherapy and meditation music and a massage chair or whatever. There's some PDs that are really like taking in the wellness factor and being like, okay, we need to have this space. Now, in the PD itself, for most part, it's gonna, it's not gonna be its business. It's like you're doing a job, you get in, get out, it's not gonna be that pretty, right? Um, and then like interrogation rooms and whatnot, there are some elements of a PD specifically, they're not meant to be. Just like a courtroom. If you go into a courtroom, there's a reason that the judge sits higher and every it's laid out because it's a psychological game, right? So all of that plays into how somebody shows up because you're trying to find out what the truth of the matter is, and there's different psychological tricks to get somebody to feel you you don't want them to be too relaxed, right? So there are those components to it. Um, and then unfortunately, uh PDs across the country are struggling, they've had more and more and more and more budget cuts, so they can't do little things to improve. Um, the department that my dad worked for, I got to go and have a meeting there. They haven't renovated that thing, which was cool for me because they haven't renovated it ever. So for me, I hadn't been in since I was a teenager. I walk in, I was like, oh, I'm back in this then to the 80s. And the only pictures that they had on the wall, my dad was in every single one of them from like the 70s. And I'm like, okay, cool for me. Please don't update it for my own ego, but you could use a paint job. Right.

Lyssia Katan

We underestimate the the effect of something so small. So we don't have that like that yellowy color, the you know, pinkish color from the 70s and 80s that just was never updated. How about a fresh cone of paint will impact all the people working there too? Yeah.

Tami Sharp

Well, and so if you don't, because especially in law enforcement, it's out of their control, it's not gonna happen. Whether you have buy-in from command, you have the budgets, you're just there's so many different facets that go into that. But on the individual level, you can absolutely make your own space. Um, and it's little things again to well, okay. So crystals and stones. Like I have a piece of my underneath, like if you saw I have a whole drawer of rocks, okay? So tourmaline is this one's protective. There's black obsidian. These are kind of bigger pieces. I have this little rock. Like, you can have something like this where you can put it in your pocket and nobody knows that it's there, but it's doing its energetic job. A lot of women wear uh bracelets and necklaces or whatever. You can have your own little energetic space or something that brings you joy. Um, using your phone, we have our phones on us all the time, just the backdrop that brings you joy. And then if you really can't do anything with the external, putting that in your mind. What is your happy space? What brings you peace? So that if you can go, if you're in the seat of a patrol car and you need to take a moment to not only breathe and just recalibrate your energy, but you can have your happy place that you go to in your mind. And that might be your house or a specific place. And if you close your eyes and you're like, okay, I want to go to my pla my a room in my house, but it's all cluttered, you can start organizing it in your mind and cleaning it up. And that's gonna clean up your energy. It's gonna help you recalibrate your energy and mindset as well.

Your Home As A Zen Space

Lyssia Katan

Visuals are huge. So, what advice do you have for people who do work in really high alert, high stress environments? What should their home ideally provide when they come home at the end of the day?

Tami Sharp

One with high performers, whatever, whether it's law enforcement across the board. The common issues with high performers is we live in our own minds and we think way too much. Um, we overanalyze, we're always going, and we don't tell other people that we're not okay. It's just it's what we do. And so in the suicide realm, a lot of times when somebody commits suicide, you'll hear, I never thought of that. Like they they seem to have it all together. They seem like they were on top of it, da da da. Yeah, because that's a high performer. That's somebody that goes, goes, goes, and goes until they can't. So your space, when you come home, you need to have at least a somewhere. I call it my my zen space, right? Like I have little carvings and cutouts of my house. So because I'm a DIYer, because I'm a gardener, I'm constantly in motion of different projects. So I would love for my whole backyard to be this amazing garden that you go out and everybody's like, oh my gosh. The reality is there's pockets of it. So when somebody comes over, I'm like, oh, I'm not done yet. Sorry, don't step over that. I'm not done yet. Right. If you look right here, you'll see the vision. But you need to have those spaces for yourself. When you go in, you can feel your mind and your body just go and relax. You've got to have something, even if your whole house is kind of chaos, carving out that one little Zen space for you will help a ton.

Lyssia Katan

And do you think that working on your environment, whether it's building something, DIY, um, fixing something, gardening, can actually help regulate those emotions in some kind of way?

Tami Sharp

100%. Gardening or being outside, grounding, touching earth, uh, touch grass, as the kids say these days. There's science behind that. You're actually grounding into getting out of your head. Because when you're in your head, you're kind of up in the ethers and you can spin yourself out. We we create so many stories and scenarios. And the thing is, if you're having anxiety, anxiety stems from thinking too far ahead, trying to control things that you can't control. And a lot of people live in anxiety. It's a control issue. So you can't control what's going to happen. You can have the best plan in the world and everything is nailed to a T. Shit happens. Like life happens, and you've got to be able to pivot. Depression typically stems from thinking in the past, or I coulda, shoulda, woulda, uh, the good old days, or you're living in dictum mindset and you're not in the past. So coming present into the present moment, the only thing that you have true control over is your mind and your immediate surroundings. So if you're stressed, you're having anxiety, there's something out of your control, whatever it is. Like right now, I'm looking at my desk, I have share, I have a stack of books right here. I have little things that if I'm like, okay, I'm stuck, I'm working on my computer and I'm stuck, I'm gonna start putting stuff away and getting organized with things. And again, going back to what I said, it's small projects, it's little things that just focus your energy somewhere else. Because also when you start focusing on cleaning a space, you when you're trying to create something, you're trying to maybe you're trying to land a client or you're waiting for a check to come in, you need money, or you know, I'm hosting a retreat uh in a couple months. And so I'm like, okay, we gotta, there's so many moving cards for this retreat. The more I focus on it, that energy, you're choking it out. Nothing can come into your realm when you're so hyper fixated. It's like when you're expecting a call. I mean, dating myself back in the day when we had phones that you picked up, we'd literally pick it up to see if the dial tone was there, right? Or now with our phones, it's like, hey, call me, make sure my phone's working because this person hasn't called me. It's the same thing. But as soon as you walk away from your phone, you usually get a text message or an email. Energetically, as soon as you walk away and put your energy somewhere else and you start cleaning a space, you're moving that energy and you're allowing whatever is trying to get to you to come in because you release the death grip on it.

Lyssia Katan

That's so true, actually. Like, whenever, whenever you're waiting for an email, waiting for a phone call, waiting for a text message. Like, if you're sitting staring at your phone, it's never coming. But if you're like suddenly like organizing your closet or you go for a walk, suddenly, like it's there instantly.

Weekend DIY Projects That Reset You

Tami Sharp

It's crazy how that happens. Like you leave your phone, you go to the bathroom, come back, you have like five missed calls. You're like, are you kidding me? I was sitting here for like two hours. The one minute that I left, you called every time without fail. On the weekends, like I work, work, work, work all the time working, but I have been forcing myself on the weekends because I'm in Arizona too. So I have a small window that just got even smaller because we hit stupid triple digits next week. That's two months too soon, and I'm not happy about it. But um I love being outside and I love my projects outside in my garden. So I've been forcing myself on the weekends, even though I have a ton of work and I'm like, I should be doing this so that I'm ahead of the game for Monday. I'm like, no, I'm gonna go work on my projects. Like yesterday, I put uh I had a stake a tree. I did that. I did little things because it clears my energy so that when I do come in, I can do hyper focused, like I just it just shifts your whole mindset. Cause also while you're doing those projects, the best ideas will come to you, like the solutions to your problems. You're like, if you're stuck, this is so like I don't know what to do, everything. If you go outside, especially and you work on something, you'll just have a flash all of a sudden be like, oh, why didn't I think of that sooner? And it's usually really simple. It's like the simplest stuff is like, oh, like if I would have just said, hey, do you want to do this? Like it would fix itself. Little things, right?

Lyssia Katan

Being like such a DIY um expert like yourself, what's a project that someone can just take on in a weekend just to shift their mind? If they have no DIY experience? None.

Tami Sharp

Or maybe a little. Go to a thrift shop, find something that calls to you but a little ugly, and get some paint, get some bedazzle. I don't care what you do to it, whatever. If you want it shiny, you want it, whatever. And when you're working, do a small, don't go crazy, but do a small project. And what I do with I do this with like coloring books too. I don't know if you guys do this, but when you're doing a coloring book, like I believe that I'm creating life. Like I am turning this picture into a real thing and I'm in it and I'm using my imagination. It's the same with my DIY piece, where it's like, okay, I am, I have control of what the outcome for this is going to be. And I'm making something beautiful. I'm bringing, I'm breathing life back into this. I'm I'm doing that. In my line of work, I'm dealing with people mental and emotional states from all different calibers. So I don't always get to see the results. I can't control, I could have, I could have a session with somebody that I think is an amazing session, and they're gonna go home and they're gonna transform their lives, and then they come back the next week and they're still stuck. Or, you know, we do a couple good sessions and then I don't hear from them ever and I don't know if it worked out. So with a DIY project, you that's again that's something you have control over. You can control what it looks like, how you can fix it, and what the end result is. And then at the end of it, you can either have that as your little trophy and you keep you can keep it, you can sell it and make some money, or you can gift it to somebody else and pay it forward and again move that energy. So I would just start, yeah. I live at thrift shops. I love finding stuff of like, ooh, what can I turn this into that would be amazing.

Lyssia Katan

Yeah, are the most unexpected things that you would never find in a store, in a like a not thrifted store.

Thrifting Without Bringing Old Energy

Tami Sharp

Like I bought um, I have a Buddha statue in my garden that I got. It was a little bit damaged and it was ugly. And I got it, I patched it up and I just spray painted it and put it in my garden. And now it's like, oh yay, I have this little zen area in my garden. So yeah, spray paint's great.

Lyssia Katan

But seeing as you're you're such a you're an energy expert, really. How this is a conversation that I had with a friend not too long ago, and I love thrift shops. I always find really cool things. But I have a friend who said she doesn't want to take on the energy of the person or the house that that came from. Do you hear that ever? And do you have any advice on like people who do like thrifting but maybe are hesitant to go do it? How to cle clear the energy of something before taking it into your home, which is like your most intimate space.

Tami Sharp

Laughing because my daughter all of a sudden wants to bring home a bunch of porcelain dolls. And I'm like, nope. No, thank you. Yeah, okay. Maybe there's a line and you gotta draw it somewhere. No, I'm good. Clowns are whatever. No, um, again. So when you are if you're drawn to something and if it feels good to you and it brings you joy, should be okay. If it doesn't feel right in the store, you're I will I will pick things up and I will carry them through the store with me for a while. And then I'm like, yeah, I'm kind of over it. I'm not feeling it, you know, or if I drop it, and if you especially with crystals and jewelry, if you're wearing jewelry um or have certain crystals and you lose it or you break it, that's not a oh my god, I lost my thing. It's like, okay, that stone took an energetic hit for you and it protected you. So trust that. So same thing if some things break, it's no longer for you, and you gotta trust the process. But if you do get something and you really like it and you're like, I want this, I want it to be great, then before you bring it into your house, if you are super religious, you can pray over it. You can ask for yourself to be protected, clear anything that no longer goes to that. If you have holy water, you know, a little holy water for that, you can sage it, you can keep it outside. Let if it's waterproof or whatever, you can let it sit outside a little bit. Um, people will clear clean and charge their crystals under the sun and the moon and the rain and all of the things. So you really got to go whatever your belief system is. And when in doubt, at this point, we have the internet. So Google some stuff and be like, how do I clear the energy off of this? I don't really know. Protecting your house really quick, too, so that you don't bring things in. If you smudge your house or you clear the energy out, um, one of the other things that you can do is putting salt along your door and your windowsills so that it kind of knocks that energy from coming in. So you salt it. Um, however, you need to be careful when you start clearing and protecting and understanding that don't get mad when all of a sudden certain people don't want to come over or they leave or they're mad at you. I did that where I had a person who I kept having wanting to come over to my house, but before they would come, I always protect my house and then they'd flake and they'd never show up. And I was so mad at them for being a flake until one day I realized I'm like, wait, wait, wait. I have done this little energy thing every time, and so I didn't do it one day, and so they showed up and then would not come in. They stayed on my deck and would not come into my house. And I sat there and then I was like, Oh, energy, bad juju.

The One Takeaway And Closing

Lyssia Katan

Like, you are not supposed to be here, so yeah, it works, it works, and I like what you said about breaking things because I break things all the time, like it just some I don't know, I drop things, like things just happen. I'll go like this at a dinner and like there's wine glasses everywhere. And I've just learned to just accept it, embrace it, and say, all right, that means it's time to find a new one, find a different one. Like that's just part of life. We gotta accept that things break and sometimes we don't even know the reason. Yeah. If someone listening to this episode took only one thing away, what would you want it to be?

Tami Sharp

I mean, I the first thing is just boundaries. Because if you don't have boundaries within yourself, within your home, whether you have a family, whether you live alone, whatever that is, boundaries are the biggest thing, energetic boundaries, especially. Um, and boundaries with yourself, like being aware of what you're thinking, you could have the most clean OCD space on the planet and be like, well, my house is clean. I have no clutter. I Murray quand everything, everything brings me joy. That's great. But if your mind is still 90% negative and you're just talking smack about yourself all day and you don't think you're good enough and da-da-da, that you need to check in with yourself and start learning. There's books, there's coaches, there's everything. For people that are like, well, I don't have access. Yes, you do. We have the internet, we have the world at our fingertips. It's what you put your energy. Energy goes where energy is sent. So if you're gonna focus on the negative, you're gonna get more negative. If you want to shift it and focus on the positive, you'll start seeing more positive. And real quick, we didn't even we talked about mess and clutter, but we didn't talk about the OCD clean. If you are somebody that is super OCD, you have to have a clean space, you can't handle a mess or crumbs on the counter or whatever. I'm guessing your anxiety is also through the roof. And that's a control thing. So allowing yourself, your world's not going to unravel if you have a little bit of a mess. So to sit with that and tap in if you have a mess and you create a mess and you're sitting there staring at it and you're like, I'm freaking out right now. You might want to reach out to a coach or somebody that can help you understand what is it that you're actually trying to control and what is the actual fear within that situation.

Lyssia Katan

Tami, thank you so much. You are not only super knowledgeable, but so entertaining and funny and fun to talk to. I'm really lucky to have been connected to you. And we will link your podcast and all the details in the show notes so anyone listening can go ahead and listen to you and jump on over and really get a deep dive into everything you do because it's so fascinating. But thank you for your time and uh we really appreciate having you on the show. Awesome. This is great. Thank you. Thank you so much for spending this time with me on Broom2th. If you enjoyed this episode, feel free to follow the show, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with someone who you think would really appreciate a more thoughtful approach to their space. You can find more Design Meets Psychology insights on social, in our community, and definitely in upcoming episodes so you can build a better life by design. Thanks again for listening. I'll see you next time.